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Cobbey Crisler on John 8.32/citation B19 with notes & quotes from others

John 8:31, 32. “Then Jesus said to those Jews which believed on him, ‘If ye continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed, And ye shall KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.’” (caps added)

[Cobbey:] “Here is the recipe for freedom, “It’s the truth itself that makes you free.”  It is the fact that makes you free. In John 8:44, the devil is defined as a liar [W. a “fake news” distributor] and also a murderer from the beginning. If you analyze that again, the devil has one of two purposes when it enters into the thoughts and lives of man. It is either to deceive us or to kill us or others. That’s the motive prompting the thought, critical or otherwise. Remember, judging righteous judgment eliminates most criticisms, and not judging according to appearance. It [lying “fake news”] either murders or kills our neighbor or ourselves, or its purpose is to deceive, one or the other.”
Book of John, A Walk with the Beloved Disciple,
by B. Cobbey Crisler**

[Warren: Here’s a Halloween TREATMENT BONUS— “Know the Truth” Notes taken and typed-up by Ruth Huff from a Jack Hubbell lecture:]
“KNOW THE TRUTH” means knowing or being conscious of what is already true!

“Mary Baker Eddy was once asked by a reporter, what is a Christian Science treatment?
After a few moments of deep thought, she answered, (in words that Mom posted over her desk)

‘It (Christian Science treatment) is the absolute acknowledgment of present perfection!
(Elizabeth Earl Jones Reminiscences).

“If you begin a treatment to improve an imperfect condition, STOP!
You have been mesmerized!

“You are well, before you give the treatment!
Treatment is being conscious of present reality.”

(Notes from a Jack Hubbell, CS, lecture and from word studies more fully summarized below)

“What does it mean to “know the truth?” – To acknowledge it!

to acknowledge means to admit to be true

– to declare the Truth of something

– an admission of truth as a fact or principle

Unity of Good 7:20-22 . . . “an acknowledgment of the perfection of the infinite Unseen confers a power nothing else can.”

We can’t know a lie!
You cannot know that 2 + 2 = 5, because it does not! You can only believe it!

We can never know sin, disease or anything that seems inharmonious, because it is just a lying suggestion! We can only be tricked if we believe it!

Where do we learn what is real and what is a lie?

Through THE WORD (the Scriptures and Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures)

SH 503:12 Divine Science, the Word of God . . . .”

How did Jesus pray? What was he thinking, what was he knowing that healed so effectively?

“…Jesus, whose humble prayers were deep and conscientious protests of Truth, — of man’s likeness to God and of man’s unity with Truth and Love.” (SH 12:13 Jesus)

protests: (1828 Webster’s Dictionary)

– solemn declarations of fact

– affirmation, acknowledgement of what is real

– to call as a witness in affirming or denying

What do we treat? How does knowing the truth have any effect? What really needs healing?

* NEVER treat man, never treat a ‘sick’ man

* Always treat the suggestion that man is sick

The great spiritual fact must be brought out that man
is, not shall be, perfect and immortal.”
Science and Health, 428:22 (bolding added)

To ‘really know the truth’ wouldn’t deal with a real disease, but with a false suggestion. The false suggestion is all there is to the problem.

Jargon: to know the truth sometimes means we are going to quote a passage or call upon a line from some place and eliminate an imperfect condition – that we are going to fix matter with truth.

“KNOW THE TRUTH” means knowing or being conscious of what is already true!

Let God Expressed Meekly/Mightily in you sparkle brightly with new insights from Cobbey Crisler & others as inspired by The Christian Science Quarterly Bible Lesson on

for November 6, 2022

 (Cobbey’s insights are shared with the blessing of Janet Crisler
by Warren Huff, CedarS Executive Director Emeritus,

REJOICE TO DENY and EXPUNGE FROM YOUR PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE FABLED FAILURES & MYTHICAL MIST-TAKES MADE IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN! —The “woman with a crown (corona) of twelve stars” versus a great red dragon … with seven crowns upon his heads” (complete coronavirus in its head) –
Cobbey on Genesis 3 (Golden Text & B8)
curses being reversed
(not rehearsed) in Rev 12/
cit. B11

[Cobbey Crisler:] “Now we come to Revelation 12 – a great and portentous moment in the Bible. The word “sign” which the King James Version translates “wonder” appears in verse 1 for the first time and in its only positive use in Revelation.

Revelation 12:1 “And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

“This unique sign is the epiphany of God’s womanhood – a contrast with the succeeding negative uses of the word sign is vivid. It stands out as does Isaiah’s well-known and similar pronouncement that “the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son.” (Isaiah 7:14) …

“But comprehension of this and interpretation of Isaiah’s statement, as well as the twelfth chapter of Revelation, have run the gamut of controversy. Scholars and theologians agree one thing that Revelation 12 is difficult if not impossible to explain. There may be a good reason for this, for the title of the book is not explanation but revelation.

“To John at Revelation 12, verse 1 (see above) there appeared a great Symeon in heaven. The Greek word usually stands for a distinctive feature, identifying someone or something clearly. According to The Anchor Bible, “Symeon” usually translates in the Hebrew, that is, “some event assuring man of a divine intervention; it is a form of revelation.”

“And we have a woman and her attire is celestial for it is associated with sun, moon, and stars. …

“The Expositor’s Bible Commentary and The Anchor Bible have pointed out the sun, moon, and stars were part of the high priest’s garments. Does it follow, then, that this woman has something to do with the highest responsibilities in church?

“In the Revelation 1, the son of man’s garments identify him as well with the priesthood, and thus, with the highest God-appointed responsibilities of church. … The archpriest of Israel has the exclusive right annually to enter the Holy of Holies where God’s presence was held in symbol to be. This is also where The Commandments rested inside the Ark, and where two Cherubim of purest gold, later overlaid on olive wood, stood symbolically on the right hand and left hand of God’s presence. In fact, if you remember, God is frequently cited in the Old Testament as dwelling between the Cherubim.

“Consider then this Apocalyptic Picture of the woman with priestly implications and meanings and a crown of victory or dominion. How far this is from the stereotype subordinate role accorded woman by Ecclesiastical traditions through the centuries.

Although the very first statement about woman in the Bible (Genesis 1) is that God created her with dominion which precludes subjection. The first named representative of womanhood in the text (Genesis 1) is Eve, and Eve is not only dominated by her husband, she is evicted from Eden, her home, woman’s special domain. This eviction has been used as Ecclesiastical pretext for her exclusion from high church offices.
[Webster: “pretext, noun – a reason given in justification of a course of action that is not the real reason.”]

“Theologians have been kinder to man’s Genesis 1 dominion, than to woman’s simultaneously declared right. Going even further, Ecclesiastism continues solemnly to blame woman for the downfall of the race. This is why the dominion woman of Revelation 12 is such a radical sign that sends tremors through anciently rooted traditions and overturns them.

“For Revelation 12 reverberates with news of woman’s God-ordained assignment, to complete the salvation of the race, which Jesus inaugurated. The Anchor Bible refers to this one as a “key figure in the drama of salvation.” Then the author adds “there can be no doubt that Revelation is giving the Christian enactment of the drama foreshadowed in Genesis 3:15 where enmity is placed between the serpent and the woman – between the serpent’s seed and her seed.

“Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

“Revelation 12 is unquestionably set against the background of Genesis 3,” from The Anchor Bible.

“But shouldn’t we regard this woman simply as an Apotheosis – God’s ideal.

“Revelation 12, Verse 1 certainly casts about her such a heavenly outline.

Revelation 12:1 “And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:”

“The Bible has conditioned us, however, to look for God’s ideals to make an earthly statement, to have a concrete, practical application to present living.
“In fact, The Lord’s Prayer petitions that God’s will be done in earth as it is in heaven. So, the Apocalyptic Picture in verse one of spiritual womanhood as God has created her must appear at some point as answered prayer “in earth as it is in heaven.”

Matthew 6:10 “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.”

“Otherwise, woman’s God-given dominion would remain unexercised on earth. Her spiritual potential would remain unseen. She would never escape from Eve’s mold.

“Wrestling with these implications, The Anchor Bible’s author continues: “It is generally agreed that the woman of Revelation is a symbol of the people of God; however, often in the Bible, collective figures are based on historical ones. Thus, the fact that the woman represents the people of God would not at all preclude a reference to an individual who is the basis of the symbolism.” (From The Anchor Bible.)

“Revelation 12, verse 2, with its Eve’s imagery of birth throes and pain contrasts with the dominion woman of verse 1: “…she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.” (Rev 12:2)

“As Jesus had foreseen in the Gospel of John, “…her hour is come.” (John 16:21) …

“The Genesis 1 womanhood and her spiritual dominion must now be fulfilled on earth. The curse on Eve must be remedied and her stereotype transfigured. …
“To exemplify this spiritual ideal is no easy task. The woman is opposed by the dragon’s animalism and its sworn enmity against life and health. This is the second sign – the great red dragon. Woman has met this symbol before in Genesis 3. It was smaller then – a serpent beguiling Eve.

“Now, although John identifies it as that old serpent, it has grown to the proportions of a dragon, face to face with the woman of the Apocalypse. At this point in scripture, one could well reflect upon a young Sunday School boy’s ingenuous question: “Why didn’t they kill it when it was little?”

“It may also be worth pondering that the symbols chosen – a talking serpent and a dragon – are not real entities in nature. They belong to the language of mythology. Even if a myth has ballooned for centuries, it is still a myth.

“Have you noticed in Genesis there is no reported dialog between Adam and the serpent? Adam was commanded directly by God not to eat of the fruit of the tree; In fact, it is the first “thou shalt not” in the Bible. (Genesis 2:17) …The tree, then, not the serpent, represents Adam’s problem, and Jesus is the remedy for Adam, Paul tells us. That would require that Jesus gloriously succeed at each point where Adam dismally failed.

“Where, for example, in Jesus’ career, do we find the remedy for the tree?
The first epistle of Peter speaks of Jesus baring our sins in his own body on the tree. (I Pet 2:24)… Although tree here is a reference to the cross, the Greek word is the same, used in the Greek Old Testament for Adam’s tree. The act of nailing Jesus to the cross thus takes on symbolically the attempt to nail him to the tree of sin and its fruit, and to see him perish in the demoralization of Adam, and in the shame and futility of the Adam race. This would have left Jesus career as barely a footnote to human history. But, Jesus solved the problem of that tree; he called himself the bright and morning star, and this was the dawning of an entirely new human race. …

“Sealed by God, rather than marked by the beast – a race that could now heal in the name of Jesus of Nazareth, rather than die in the name of Adam of Eden.

“But Adam was not all there was to this surrender in Eden, there was Eve. Logic would conclude that she needs to be remedied as well, in order for all Eden’s mistakes to be expunged.

God’s logic and His revelation could not be counteracted, so we should pursue what Revelation waits to disclose on this theme. Eve’s failure was listening to the serpent; she was beguiled, as Paul writes. The serpent then, not the tree, represents Eve’s problem.

Genesis 3:13 “And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.”

“Paul writes in II Corinthians 11:3/citation B13  “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.”

“How is the serpent’s apparent success to be remedied? The woman in Genesis 1 has dominion; this is the only remedy for manipulation and its fruits of subjection and subordination. The matrix of God’s womanhood is not the stereotype of man’s making. Only God’s type of womanhood could stand impervious to beguilement and subtlety, listen solely to God and free her seed from the magnetic pull of the dragon’s tail. Can such a role model be lived on earth as it is in heaven? Prophesy’s answer is an unequivocal “Yes!”

“Scriptural text also foresees a serpent’s final grip on the ancient and modern history of man, both species and genera, will loosen and fall away. (Genera is plural of Genus – Def Webster)

“No precedent will remain for allegiance to ought than to one omnipotent God, and the human will be found living and embodying the First Commandment.

“The magnitude of these two witnesses and their mission in prophesy, as well as the divine responsibilities they bear, grow in scripturally receptive hearts and burn within them. Let us turn to Isaiah 42, verse 13 for a few moments.

“Here the prophet lists the only two witness to God’s full nature and essence.

“One can discover, in Genesis 1, the male and female of His creating. Isaiah refers to the first representation of God’s nature thus: “The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man.” (Isa 42:13) The New England Bible continues the translation like this: “As a warrior, he will rouse the frenzy of battle; like a hero, he will shout, he will raise the battle cry and triumph over his foes.”

Isa 42:13 “The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.”

“Is this a prophetic summons for manhood on earth to represent the essentials of manhood in heaven, to exercise dominion on earth as the master? All this is phrased in the language of battle.

“The next verse, Isaiah 42:14, interposes a time transition, and God said, “I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself.”

Isa 42:14 “I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself: now will I cry like a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour at once.” Z. 47:20

“Then comes the prophesy of a second representation of God’s nature “Now, will I cry like a travailing woman.” The Interpreter’s Bible Dictionary translates the Bible verse: “I will gasp and pant.” For the original Hebrew words are borrowed from vocabulary peculiar to the throes of childbirth.

“So, Revelation 12 is not without its antecedents in prophesy. What kind of a birth is being portrayed, however? Turn back to Revelation 12:2 to the phrase “travailing in birth.”

Revelation 12:2 “And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.”

“In the original Greek travailing in birth in conveyed by one word, and it connotes intense pain in general – that is the physical and mental senses. The verb’s usual meaning is in anguish or being in torment with no references to the pangs of childbirth in a literal sense. The Anchor Bible comments: “The present tense indicate prolonged suffering – the terminology of no ordinary childbirth.” The phrase with child does not always refer to physical motherhood. Similarly, “cries out” is not confined to an association with childbirth.

“In the Septuagint, or Greek Old Testament, it is also used for crying out to Yahweh. “In John it occurs four times in the sense of proclaiming in the face of contradiction.” (Anchor Bible) Philo, a Jewish philosopher, roughly contemporary to Jesus, uses the word, according to The Anchor Bible, “in the sense of the soul bringing forth thoughts.” The woman of Revelation 12, verse 1, wears a crown or corona in Jerome’s Latin translation. The woman of Revelation 12, verse 2, is pained or cruciator in the same Latin translation – a word that shares the same root with cross and crucifixion. In this combination of crown and cross, we have what appears to be a divine human coincidence, an event divinely prescribed, but humanly carried out. It comes as no surprise to read further in The Anchor Bible that “the woman’s symbol is almost as important as The Lamb.”…

“Later in Revelation, references to the Lamb’s wife divulges her complementary role to The Lamb. Jesus calls himself the bridegroom, a prophetic word. The title, however, is not suitable unless there is a bride.
“….Going back to Genesis 1, the next reference to the number two is not in numerical form, but rather illustrated in the product of God’s nature, as male and female. Both are said to be the image of God, having His dominion, and absolutely God-like – “Male and female, created He them.” For what reason we ask? – Logic responds, “To be like Him, to be two witnesses of his nature – manhood and womanhood, two luminaries, two candlesticks…

“What a radical challenge this is both to our present traditions as to God’s essential being as well as to the relationships between the sexes. First, we must conclude from the text of Genesis 1, that image is male and female, the original, or God, is revealing His nature, and Her nature, as Father/Mother.”
“Apocalyptic Pictures: Prophecy and Parody” by B. Cobbey Crisler**

Cobbey Crisler on Jeremiah 31 (citation B1/Jer. 31:3 +33, 34)

[Cobbey:] “In Chapter 31, which is Jeremiah’s greatest chapter, he predicts the new covenant will come. He defines it. In Verse 3 he shows that the new covenant is definitely based on the comprehension of God as love. It’s that very “lovingkindness” that will draw all mankind to God for the solution of the world problems.”— [to make “their soul (spiritual sense) as a watered garden.” (Jer. 31:12)

Jeremiah 31:33, 34 “… this shall be the covenant that I make… I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts… for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest…”
“Heal the Sick”: A Scriptural Record, by B. Cobbey Crisler**

(as inspired by this week’s citation B2, Isaiah 45:5)
Written & composed by DESIREE GOYETTE, CedarS staff, parent, Hymn Sing Musician

“I am the Lord, there is none else;
There is no God beside Me.
I girded thee, I girded thee,
Though thou hast not even known Me.
But know that from the rising sun
To the west there is none beside Me,
For I am the Lord, there is none else;
There is no God beside Me.

“I am the Truth, there is none else;
There is no Truth beside Me.
Infinite light, bountiful, bright,
Is ever present to guide thee.
Beloved and free, eternally,
Perfect peace and joy I provide thee,
For I am the Lord, there is none else;
There is no God beside Me.

“Innocent one, sinless and pure,
Nothing can ever divide thee.
Governed by Love, you are secure;
I am forever beside thee.
So rest and know wher-e’er you go,
Home and heaven cannot be denied thee,
For I am the Lord, there is none else;
There is no God beside Me.”
(Christian Science Hymnal, No. 499:1–3)

Isaiah 45:5, 6, 22/citation B2

Cobbey Crisler on Genesis 1 (citation B3) & Genesis 2

 [Cobbey:] “Can we change choices if we have made the wrong ones? Do you find the Bible filled with this choice-making? How does it open, for instance?

“Genesis 1 (cit. B3) and Genesis 2 are clearly a choice, aren’t they? They contradict each other. We really cannot live with both although most of us are undoubtedly trying. The necessity to make a decision, important decision, relates back to how the pioneer Christian made his decision. Whether he himself has that rock beneath him, as we said, before he made any rules.  Or whether he, too, vacillated and was dualistic, and was pulled to and fro, according to the motion of Satan in the Book of Job (Job 1:7; 2:2).

“… Jesus, prior to going to Gethsemane, as you recall, sang hymns [Matthew 26:30], prayed with his disciples [Matthew 26:35, 42, 44] and for them, as well as for those who were to believe on him through the words of his disciples.

“I’m not sure one could point to a more meaningful event in history than when Jesus, about to suffer the cruelty of Gethsemane and Calvary, spends his last moments praying for us whom he had never known physically, for those who believe on his disciples through their words.

“… This Adam-problem is something that is not limited to the discussion in Genesis.  We find it referred to and alluded to throughout the Bible, as if it represents in symbols the human problem.  One Bible commentator in discussing the choice between the Adam-man and the Christ-man, represented by Jesus, indicates that the way these terms are used in the New Testament especially, it looks like the intent is that each one, Adam and Jesus, are representatives of an entirely different human race.  They are completely opposite.  Humanhood following Jesus is ending up at a destination completely opposed to the destination of the Adam followers.  There may be something in humanhood we have barely glimpsed, if at all.

“Jesus found what humanhood could be when the Divine was behind it every step of the way.   There is nothing in Jesus’ humanhood that could stop the Divine from manifesting itself on earth as in heaven.  This may be our decision we’re talking about.

“Jesus refused to allow anything to obstruct the divine will from operating on earth.  Look what he was able to do with his own humanhood as well as with the humanhood of others as a result.  He could take his fragile, one would think, human frame, anatomically speaking, through what was apparently at least the sound barrier, if not the light barrier.  In no way did his body hamper him when he walked above the water.

“He therefore had dominion, obviously, over what we call a law of gravity.  Yet when he subdued gravity through this sense of dominion, gravity had no control over the dominion-man.  Notice he was not like our astronauts, weightless as the result of negating gravity.  He was still in absolute control of every aspect of his being and progressing toward his destination.  He didn’t have to do it step-by-step because we hear that when he set foot in the boat instantly, not only Jesus, but the comprehension of Jesus could embrace his disciples plus boat, and get all of them through what we feel today, technologically would require heat-resistant metal, crash helmets, oxygen masks, or whatever else in order to preserve the human frame, and to get it through such stresses and pressures and tensions.  Jesus was used to the pressure of Gethsemane, the olive press.  He did not fear what flesh could do to him, obviously…

“…If our thesis as presented is accurate, that the implication of Paul’s statement [I Corinthians 15:22/Science & Health 545:31] “As in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive” presents problem and solution, or remedy, then one of the greatest research jobs awaiting all of us is to get back into that problem called Adam which we’re all wrestling with.

“Just make a list of everything you detect that Adam did wrong mentally and physically.  Because, if it is true that Jesus’ mission was to remedy the Adam man and wipe that alternative off the face of man’s consciousness, then everything that Adam did wrong which was upside down Jesus is going to put right side up and prove that man is upright.  Many things may occur to you, for instance in the initial phases of such a list which we could just touch upon.  Adam’s problem occurred in what environment?  The Garden of Eden.  Where did Jesus face down and confront that Adam-problem?  The Garden of Gethsemane.  Is this a coincidence?  Is Gethsemane intended to be the remedy for the problems of Eden in our own thinking?  I love in that context to remember Isaiah’s words [Isaiah 1:29] when he says, “Ye shall be confounded for the gardens ye have chosen.”   Eden, Gethsemane. [W: The fables of Eden at the base of CedarS Time Travelers Trail is overcome by the facts of Gethsemane at the top.]

“Adam’s problem, though, is probably symbolized most graphically by what?  He had been told not to do something, what was it?  “Not to eat of that tree” [Genesis 3:3].  Instead he went and did it.  The disobedience, doing one’s own will, would have to be totally remedied right up with the same even greater peak pressure on a humanhood that had just announced to the world that the way to get out of this Adam-mess is to yield to God’s will regardless of the pressure upon you, so [it’s] doing God’s will versus doing one’s own will.

“The tree of knowledge of good and evil.  You know that the New Testament refers several times to the cross as the tree, that they nailed Jesus to the tree [Acts 13:29; 1Peter 2:24].  Interesting symbolism.  The attempt to nail Jesus as if he were one more in the dying race of Adam, to be nailed to death, and that’s the termination and the end of anything that he would offer man radically as salvation.  Jesus could not be nailed on the cross any more than God’s man could be nailed on the cross, and thus his theology was exemplified.

“Do you remember, – just things like this to show you how much fun this work can be as well – part of the curse on Adam [Genesis 3:17,18] was that thorns will be brought forth unto him.  Did Jesus have to face Adam’s thorns on that weekend?  “In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread…dust thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou return” [Genesis 3:19].  The grave was the pressure of the dust he was to return to.  There are many others showing the complete reversal of the Adam.  It’s as if the highest sense of mind on earth, which had relinquished its right to mind except by reflection, is turning everything right side up just as we do visually.  That topic is far from being exhausted.  In fact, what can exhaust an infinite reservoir?  It’s one thing about supply in the Bible.  It’s never consumed.  Therefore, there are no consumers.

“… Let’s now turn to Mark’s version of the event.  Something no other Gospel records.

Mark 14:36 “Jesus says, Abba, Father, all things [are] possible unto thee.”  He’s praying his own Lord’s Prayer, showing that this is not a prayer that he doesn’t participate in himself.  “Abba,” as some of you may know if behind every use of Jesus’ word “Father” in the gospels.  “Abba” is the Aramaic word.  No other religious thinker or writer before his time had ever used “Abba” for God.  “Abba” is a child’s word.  [W: See Responsive Reading use by Paul to the Galatians (4:6)] Abba is “Daddy.”  It’s one of the first two words that a Hebrew and an Arab child learns today.  “Abba, Imma [Daddy, Mama or Mommy]” [SEE “CHILDREN OF GOD” in the GOLDEN TEXT and note that in the Responsive Reading there are 14 OTHER MENTIONS OF “CHILDREN” (or child or son(s) or Father or heir(s). At least some of these words or “daughter” or “Mother” are mentioned in every section and occur more than 40 times in Sections 1 thru 6 this week!]

[Cobbey continues:]  “When Jesus told us we could not enter in to the kingdom of heaven without becoming as a little child, he obviously meant we cannot say the Lord’s Prayer effectively without becoming a little child.  It’s an infant’s reliance on God and Jesus goes to his Father as a little child in Gethsemane.  When we’re making our Gethsemane decisions, we had better follow the example and remember “Abba,”

Mark 14:35 “He states, the spirit truly [is] ready, but the flesh [is] weak.”

Let’s go to Luke’s version.

Luke 22:42 Luke tells us a few other things.  As a matter of fact, [this is] probably the most well-known expression of the Gethsemane Decision where Jesus says, “Nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.”  Remember if the opening line of the Lord’s Prayer is recalled by “Abba,” Our Father, “Abba” being the original behind it.

[Luke 11:1,2] “Look at “Thy will be done” in the Lord’s Prayer.  Why is it there?  The prayer that Jesus himself gave us in response to the question, “Lord, teach us to pray.”

[Matthew 6:9] “After this manner therefore pray ye.”  “Abba.”  Immediately be a little child and be sure you’re committed to God’s will being done.

“Look at that discipline requiring human thought to conform and yield to the divine when all outlines and barriers around mentality as we have become accustomed to it fall away and we find no limitations to thought or mind at all if we are the image of the mind of God.  “Not my will be thine be done” is Jesus using his own prayer in Gethsemane.  If that Lord’s Prayer can carry one through Gethsemane, it can carry one through anything. …

“Gethsemane is the press, the oil press.  Like Jesus, we must have oil within us.  The pressure is still on.  If Gethsemane is the press, can we say and be backed up by Scripture, that not my will but thine be done is the oil?  If so, that’s the Christ-oil.  The word Christ is based upon the Greek word for oil.  That’s what poured out of Jesus’ experience at Gethsemane.  What is it designed to do?  To anoint, to heal, to feed, to cleanse.  If the pressure of Gethsemane is upon us, what is oil designed to do?  Do we find in our character anything unlike that Christ-anointed example?  Is that human will that needs to be crushed out forever?

“We think we’re in an oil crisis today.  The pressure is on.  But Gethsemane’s purpose has a divine result regardless of what the world can bring to bear upon you and me, Jesus could say in part of that hymn that he sang before Gethsemane which is locatable in the later psalms, is still sung today at Passover, that he needed not to fear what man or flesh could do.  Out of that experience flowed the oil that is still blessing us, is still being utilized.  We’re not in an oil crisis today if we’re in the way with Jesus.  We maybe at a “parting of the ways,” the meaning of the word crisis.   We may be challenged regularly and often to make our right decisions, our right choice, our Gethsemane decision.

“Then, the result of no longer bowing down to a human will, no longer seeing within us any domination by others through their human will, but filled with the Holy Ghost’s own message, the angel that strengthens Jesus at that moment, according to Luke.  That angel awaits to strengthen us today.

“The world with its creaky joints awaits, needs, yearns, for more Christ oil to be poured from the thoughts and lives of those who have made the decision, are continuing to make the decision, and are moving from Gethsemane at the base of the Mount of Olives to the summit of the Mount of Olives where Jesus himself ascended.  We never have to budge from that mount.  It represents both cross and crown, both problem and solution.  And therefore, that oil which negates the experience of the cross and delivers the crown shows us that those two symbols, as precious as they are in Scripture, are inseparable.  If the cross represents the problem, and the crown the solution, then intertwined they deliver that simple message to me, problem solved.  That is the result of the Gethsemane decision.”
“The Gethsemane Decision,” a talk by B. Cobbey Crisler**

FIND YOUR DOMINION-MAN HEALING IN A SIMPLE POEM THAT DEBUNKS THE FABLE OF A DUST-MAN ORIGIN! (at the bottom of the online version is a Download doc for reprinting—
And, for an audio version, John Mitchell, Executive Director of Arden Wood, read this poem as part of our inspirational conversation for their 2022 Annual Meeting) (go to minute 1:13:09)

By Woodruff Smith

Where did it begin this idea called you?
In Genesis 1, or Genesis 2?
Which one of these concepts
Will prove to be true?
If you know what is what,
Do you know who is who?
In Genesis 1 in the 26th verse
There’s a man with never a taint’ of a curse.
But in Genesis 2 in verse number seven
There’s a dust man conceived…
He’ll never see heaven.

So, it really comes down
To which one you will claim,
What thou see’st thou be’st…
So, what is your name?
There they both stand.
Which one is you?
Is it immortal man one,
Or mortal man two?

If you’re immortal man
You know what you’re worth.
For according to law
You’ll inherit the earth.
But if you’re just a mortal
And made out of dust…
Is there anything to you
That’s worthy of trust?

No, the thing they call man
In Genesis 2
Is the dream of the dreamer.
It never was you.
So, know what you are.
Take your place in the sun,
You’re the immortal man
Of Genesis 1.

[Lona:] “I gave a testimony one night in our Golden, Colorado church based on the ideas from a poem I really liked, which said, “Which of these men do you think of as you, Genesis One or Genesis Two?”

A couple of weeks later a businessman, not knowing I was behind him, probably, testified that he had heard a rather banal, trite testimony a couple of weeks ago from someone who recited that line, “Which of these men do you think of as you, Genesis One or Genesis Two?” and he thought it was so trivial, so lightweight.

He went to a business meeting in Atlanta, Georgia after that and was in a hotel room in the middle of the night, sound asleep with his wife beside him, when he had a massive heart attack.

He said he wasn’t naive, he knew what was happening, and he knew he was in a life-threatening situation. He was totally helpless, so helpless he could not even cry out to his wife for help, obviously could not call a practitioner, and he said for the first time in his life he felt completely helpless. He tried to repeat the Lord’s Prayer, the 23rd Psalm, the Scientific Statement of Being, but he couldn’t remember them, couldn’t put them together.

He felt totally mentally jumbled and then he recalled a very simplistic statement…”Which of these men do you think of as you, Genesis One or Genesis Two?” and he realized that it wasn’t so banal after all, that if he were a Genesis Two man he would probably not live through the night, but if he were a Genesis One man he could claim his dominion over the “things of the flesh.”

He did it. He said the pain lifted immediately and he felt whole and well. He decided the poem was OK after all.

–Lona lngwerson, CS

transcribed from W’s notes on Cobbey Crisler talks on Genesis 1 (B2):

[Cobbey:] “Genesis chapter 1 was written in response to the Hebrew people’s crisis of exile.

“Verse 2 attempts to explain how creation occurred as well as how a new beginning could occur out of the vacuity of nothingness of exile.  To the post-exilic authors of Genesis 1 “the earth was without form and void” – or “Toe-who” and Boe-who” – the translated names of the Babylonian mythical leviathan-like, sea monster and their mythical behemoth-like, land monster. The modern-day myth is that we evolved from the sea to be dry land creatures with a refined further way of animal thought and life.  Human thought was dark much like “darkness on the face of the waters.” … Spirit is the root of the whole word inspiration… No advance can occur in life without inspiration—so “the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”… This happens also when Jesus is baptized, coming “straightway out of the water,” as part of a divine announcement.  He sees “the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting upon him.”  (Matthew 3:16) Consequently, one recognizes that if Spirit represents the motive of his career, it’s an inspired career…

“It’s how the entire Bible begins (Genesis 1:2) because “the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”  It’s almost as if in Jesus’ baptism, we’re getting this genesis of God’s creation, that first chapter, applied on earth.  The Spirit is moving on those waters in which Jesus is standing.  There is a Spirit genesis here.  Look at what happened in Genesis 1 in those brief verses when creation is depicted for us.” 

Verse 3 (Warren: from a bumper sticker that a friend shared) “The Big Bang theory: “Let there be light” and BANG! It happened!”)  “Light (“or” in Hebrew, “phos” in Greek) was created before the stars…  The motif here is that of the creation of the world by the WORD and a differentiation between the light and light-bearers.”  Theological Dictionary of the New Testament

Verse 4 records the first Quality Control-check—“it was good.”

Application ideas:
“Any lack of originality is only a lack of knowledge about your true origin.”

Compare the development of any right idea in business or otherwise to the mental model of creation in Genesis 1:
Verse 3 = the dawning of the light or idea
Verses 4-6 = the analysis (compare and divide as on the first day)
Verses 7-10 = the decisive, solid manifestation of the idea (dry land appears)
Verses 11-12 = investment in the idea and its productivity
Verse 13 = exposing the idea to light universally, marketing it
Verse 14-31 = diversification (lights for seasons, living creatures multiplying, male & female)
Verse 2:1-3 = rest (not inertia, but success of the idea and its continuing yield)

DISCOVER THE INDIVISIBLE NATURE OF GOD’S CREATION from the end of Genesis 1 (citation B3) in notes from Cobbey Crisler talks as transcribed by Warren):

[Cobbey said:] “Searching the scriptures does require scuba diving or at least snorkeling because there’s a need for both clear vision and inspiration.
Verse 26 “Here in a book noted for its monotheism we find plural words relative to God. (“Let US make man in OUR likeness…”) Father-Mother (F-M) must be together indivisibly or we have more than one God.  If there’s indivisibility in the original there must be indivisibility in the product.

Verse 27.  “To have Male-Female (M-F) in the product means that it’s in the original.
“On IMAGE, Clemet of Alexandria wrote: “In our view, image of God is not an object of sense, but a mental object, perceived not by the senses, but by the mind.”  But in Genesis 2:7 the mental model is dropped and in the material account of creation God forms man out of dust—the very OPPOSITE view.

“This mimics the opposite view of male and female that is widely promoted in which sex promises us all satisfaction in physical unity—but does it deliver?  The very definition of sex is division, not indivisibility.  “The sensualist’s affections… and pleasures” would put one naked through lots of fitful, [physical and] mental contortions that Mary Baker Eddy describes as “imaginary, whimsical, and unreal” (Science and Health, 241:8).
(Transcribed from notes in W’s Bible margins taken by Warren Huff during several Cobbey Crisler talks.)


[W.] Singing this toe-tapping tune to oneself must come from “the admission to one’s self that man is God’s own likeness [which] sets man free to master the infinite idea.” (90:24-25, bracketed word added)

Other references in this Bible Lesson to “image” & “likeness” & “reflection” in Science & Health include p. 531:5/cit. S5; 333:19-23/cit. S12; 299:11-15/cit. S18; 332:9-15/cit. S22…
[Some other reflection references in Science and Health include: 300:9; 90:24-25; 476:28-5; 392:8; 200:16; 497:5; 200; 94:1-6; …
Song for Next Generation Fellowship 2018 by Mike Griswold (vocal) Mike Tice (guitar). Released: 2018.

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 [Cobbey Crisler:] “We find in investigating the Old Testament as well as the New, that the woman in travail is an image, a metaphor, used almost as often as Messiah in prophecy.  For the epitome of that, look at the 12 chapter of Revelation where we find not a novel figure at all, simply a repetition of a symbol that has been seen throughout the Scriptures.  Remember womanhood and comforter, and comfort and love and motherhood all closely linked as well as Scriptural ideas.  So the concept of womanhood and comfort and the Comforter perhaps having relation to womanhood’s fulfillment of prophecy and the Genesis 1 role of God-given dominion may all be linked up. At least it’s worthwhile investigating to see what the Bible says.

“As a matter of fact, here is what the Anchor Bible says about the figure in Revelation 12.  See if you have ever looked at it from this angle.

“In Revelation 12 there is a mysterious symbolic figure of a woman who has a key figure in the drama of salvation.  There can be no doubt that Revelation is giving the Christian enactment of the drama foreshadowed in Revelation 3:15 where enmity is places between the serpent and the woman, between the serpent’s seed and her seed—and the seed of the woman enters into conflict with the serpent.  However, often in the Bible collective figures are based on historical ones.  This, the fact that woman represents the people of God [“generic man” cit. S29/561:22] would not at all preclude a reference to an individual woman who is the basis of the symbolism.” (Anchor Bible)

“So, you see that Bible scholars are wrestling with the concept that what we have in Revelation 12 is the remedy for Eve.  All the stereotypical womanhood elements, all the failures, all the mistakes, all the errors associated with the Eve-subordinated woman have now been swallowed up in the Transfiguration of womanhood clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet.  Remember that part of the curse on womanhood humanly is the periodic monthly complaints, monthly-and-moon-related. [Warren: As Mary Baker Eddy writes: “The Revelator symbolizes Spirit by the sun. The spiritual idea is clad with the radiance of spiritual Truth, and matter is under her feet.”  (SH p. 561:25-27)]

We find that this ideal view of spiritual womanhood in Verse 1 of Chapter 12 restores the dignity of women’s dominion. Her feet are on the moon.  That is the Scriptural symbol long-recognized in the Bible for dominion, “the moon under her feet.”  Thus, the Book of Revelation, a book that is attributed in its first verse to Jesus, which authorizes our including it in a course relating “Jesus and the Equality of Women”: this comparison between Eve and the dominion woman, the contest again between Genesis 2 and Genesis 1, and womanhood having that right on earth to embody the dominion of Genesis 1.

“Should a man be entitled to overcome the problems or stereotypes on womanhood?
“If so, woman would not have dominion.  Is it womanhood’s right to respond to her God-given role prophetically?  Are we ourselves perhaps, living in one of the most thrilling times of history?”  [W: a time when we’re hopefully praying for and witnessing “no retrograde step” for dominion for the women of Ukraine, Afghanistan and the whole world…]  What would make these times thrilling despite their inherent dangers?  It would be the spirit of prophecy.  Is that happening?  Can we see the signs of the times?  Is manhood waiting to be fulfilled and completed as in the seven days when God himself rested after the completion of “male and female created he them”? (Genesis 1:27)

“Until womanhood receives her appropriate Scriptural place, her God-given place, how can man rest in completion?  How can man be generic?  How can we, hand-in-hand symbolizing a higher spiritual unity than ever before, find ourselves co-residents of the Holy City, a city that has nothing but what is holy in it, a city that establishes our original relationship?  No wonder when the Bible closes, we are asked to respond to one of the most heavenly invitations in its pages, “the Spirit and the Bride say, Come” (Revelation 22:17)

“But, Ladies and Gentlemen, we cannot respond to that invitation to the wedding feast, God‘s view of creation, without our having on a wedding garment.  That, hopefully, is what our search the Scriptures will give us.  And we bring to that wedding feast our own thoughts uplifted to the sense of manhood and womanhood united forever by God with full dominion, no subordination or domination—no thought of sex— but a full, complete, joyous image of the Father-Mother divine parent.  That’s what the Scriptures are holding out for us to prove in our lives. Then, let us go forward and be part of the fulfillment of that prophecy.”
“Jesus and the Equality of Woman,” by B. Cobbey Crisler**

Follow Jesus by memorizing (paying loving attention to) God’s Bible-based commands and promises to pass your wilderness, divine identity tests like he did!
Cobbey Crisler on Jesus’ temptations, Matthew 4:
1-11, 23 (citation B14):

[Cobbey:] “There is what we might call an identity-crisis test in Chapter 4 (of Matthew).  The Anglo-Saxon word “tempt” has almost picked up a theological meaning.  It really means “test.”  That’s what the word means.  It’s a test. (Verse 1)  So, “Jesus was led up of the Spirit into the wilderness” to be tested on the fact that had recently been revealed (directly from God in Matthew 3:17 (and Mark 1:11) that Jesus was God’s “Beloved Son”).
Verse 2. “After forty days and nights he’s hungry.”
This reminds me of Moses.  He, too, had that testing period (Exodus 24:18) just prior to receiving the Ten Commandments. For forty days and forty nights.  This Chapter in Matthew is just prior to the Sermon on the Mount or the Beatitudes.  This preparation is the same.  And there is a test. 
Verse 3. “When the tester comes,” here it is, question Number 1: “If you are the Son of God.” Why would that even have emerged if we had not had Verse 17 in the preceding chapter?  “This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.”  The test question is, “If you are,” then what? “Command that these stones be made bread.”

How does Jesus respond to this test question?  He quotes Scripture.  Notice how Jesus responds to temptation.  If this is the way Jesus elects to respond to it, what about you and me?  How eloquent might you or I try to get when we respond to temptation?  Make up original sermons, choose our words carefully, perhaps?

Jesus decided the best defense was Scripture.  This verse is taken from Deuteronomy 8, Verse 3. Deuteronomy is a law book.  In fact, the word in Greek deuteros nomos is the second law or the repetition of the law.  How did he regard this test by Satan? What was going on in Jesus’ thinking here?  Had he isolated it completely?

“First of all, what does Satan mean in Hebrew? Accuser. It is also the term for prosecuting attorney.  If he has the prosecuting attorney accusing in thought, Jesus in his defense cites what?  The law.  He quotes the law book.  He doesn’t need to do anything original.  The law is the law and it never varies.  Therefore, what is being suggested her by Satan, or the prosecuting attorney is illegal. It is illegitimate. He proves it by citing the law.  That’s a marvelous technique for us in the middle of temptation.

“Our consciousness is like a law court.  And the plusses and minuses that occur there have to be dealt with, as in a law court. Where are the accusations coming from?  The prosecuting attorney or Satan.  Where do we get the information?  The law book or the defense attorney.

“You know that Jesus promised that something would come after he had left. It’s been translated “the comforter” in the gospel of John.  The Greek word is parakletos, sometimes transliterated as paraclete.  In Greek it can be the technical term for defense attorney. 

“Verse 4 (cit. B8) So, where did Jesus turn for his protection and defense, the defense of his manhood, the defense of his sonship with God, which is a spiritual fact revealed directly to him by God?  How does he defend it? By citing the law book, utilizing the Comforter or defense attorney against the arguments of Satan.  If Jesus had to do that, can we do anything less?  “Man shall not live by bread alone,” Jesus said, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” That is a great statement for survival in an emergency….

Verse 5.  But Satan isn’t through yet, is he?  Next thing, take Jesus out of the wilderness, and move him into an entirely different environment.  The sophistication of organized religion, ecclesiasticism. “Take him to the very pinnacle of the Temple.”

Verse 6.  Show him everything that could belong to him ecclesiastically if he would only go via the world’s route by following devilish suggestions.  “If thou be the son of God,” the same test question again.  “Cast thyself down.”  Notice the suggestion is that Jesus do it himself.  Apparently Satan knew that it would not succeed trying to cast Jesus down. If Satan couldn’t do it, the only way that it could be done would be for Jesus to do it to himself.” … 

In verse 6 we find that Satan is quoting Scripture, “It is written, He will give his angels charge concerning thee.”  In fact, that is a very key attempt by Satan.  Why?  Satan discovered what Jesus’ defense was, namely Scripture.  O.K., if that’s the way you want it, the devil can use Scripture for its purposes.  But the devil doesn’t know much beyond the 91st Psalm and everybody knows that.  So, Satan quotes, “It is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee; and in their hands they shall bear you up.”  You see, there is nothing to worry about, Jesus, even Scripture now backs you, so leap down.

Verse 7.  Jesus doesn’t react.  It’s reaction in Judo that is taken advantage of by your opponent. Jesus doesn’t react.  Simply quotes once again the law book.  This come from Deuteronomy 6, verse 16.  “It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.”  You cannot test God and His revealed Word.  The high quality of Jesus’ discernment and his thought is not sufficient to dismiss Satan after one temptation, or even a second one.  How valuable is the quality of persistence!  Supposed Jesus had given up after the second time, “I already covered this ground.”  Or listened to Satan, but he doesn’t. 

Verse 8. The third charge or accusation occurs, “the devil takes him into an exceeding high mountain, and shows him all the kingdoms of the world.”

“All these things being offered to Jesus are to a degree a kind of power.  He was offered personal power by changing stones to bread.  Then he was offered priestly power if he’d go for the argument to be the head of ecclesiasticism.  And he was offered political power by being shown all the kingdoms of the world.

“All those temptations that hit human nature… We are in the wilderness at some point along with Jesus having the exact same tests applied to us.  How are our responses to those exam questions?  Do we pass with flying colors?…

Verse 10.  We find that Jesus answers and that the only thing he says that’s original, “Get thee behind me Satan.”  He dismisses the prosecution in thought, “for it is written, thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and Him only shall thou serve.” That’s kind of a combination of Deuteronomy 6, verse 13 and Deuteronomy 10, verse 20. 

Verse 11.  Look at what happens.  “The devil leaveth him.” No longer is there dualism in thought.  “Angels came and ministered unto him.”  True communication completely governed his thought, no longer a divided kingdom.  The false communication is dismissed.”

BONUS RESULTS (after the verses in the lesson):
[Cobbey:] “
Verse 23. And “healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.”  Here are human problems that had defied solution, and Jesus solved them all based on his concept of theology, namely the kingdom.  Remember a kingdom is not chaos.  It’s an ordered government of heaven and harmony at hand.”
“Book of Matthew, Auditing the Master, A Tax Collector’s Report,” by B. Cobbey Crisler**

[Warren: Below are a few of my absolute, pandemic-ending prayers inspired by our Pastor:]

[W.] We already have a fully-developed, omni-acting “antidote” to any virus!  It’s also a “cure, answer or remedy” for every other (known or as-yet-unknown) virus or strain of virus and for every pandemic.  It’s ours to discover in a moment-by-moment, thought-by-thought testing process of mental inoculation—a Bible-based “vaccine!”  It’s always free – always angelically available –always affectionately administered—and, always instantly effective!

Check-out and drink-in your scripturally-prescribed antidote to any “infectious, unhealthy atmosphere, or noxious fog” as “miasma” has been defined in a    “Mist” is the first synonym for “miasma” that pops up in Microsoft Word.  Genesis 2 is the first place in the Bible that “mist” is used—right after the first of many uses of the word “But.”  “But there went up a mist from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground…” (Genesis 2:6) In the Genesis 1 man we find our immunity and healings, whereas in Genesis, chapter 2 we find a perpetual string of trouble, limitations and plaques.  (See earlier include the great poem “Genesis 1 or Genesis 2?” by Woodruff Smith and a related testimony shared by Lona Ingwerson, CSB. With Lona’s prior permission, I have also includes it as a PDF Download at the end of the online version of these GEMs.]

Let’s note and claim that the spiritual, never-annullable law and always effective cure of dominion was already divinely developed in Genesis 1: “And God said, Let us make man in our image… and let them have dominion… over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth (and upon its earthly-infected surfaces and into its worldly-infected news sources)… And God saw EVERYTHING that he had made, and behold, it was very good.” (Genesis 1: 26, 31)  Do take notice and claim as law that the punctuation is a “period”— or “full stop”—after “very good.”

Let’s claim and “love into view” the community and world-blessing effects from applying the principles of Bible-based, Christian Science to help put a “full stop” to a pandemic spread of infectious lies about the real man who as “His song” is “carefree and strong… perfect for all to see.”(Hymn 565:2)    Mary Baker Eddy writes: “Science shows that material, conflicting mortal opinions and beliefs emit the effects of error at all times, but this atmosphere of mortal mind cannot be destructive to morals and health when it is opposed promptly and persistently with Christian Science.  Truth and Love antidote this mental (coronavirus) miasma, and thus invigorate and sustain existence.” (all text emphasis (and parenthetical insertions) added to SH 273:29-3)

[Warren’s P.S.  IF you would like me to seek and then transcribe for you later this week whatever insights Cobbey has on Acts 28:3-9, please send your email address to me at,]


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